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A community of knights


This is kind of difficult to bring up, and it saddens me a bit, but here goes...

Though we have increased numbers in the SWTOR guild, we have noticed a steady decline in people on the servers, the bubble did burst, and now a lot of people seem to be leaving in droves. Though we have increased our guild by at least 300%, we noticed our active base is down to about 4 online.

There is a trend, partially due to end game, what do you do when you hit 50, the fast rate on how to get there, and the lack of a large sandbox play area to explore has been a dismay to some.

We are not calling it quits yet, and we would hate to see some wonderful new guildies along with our old guard to scatter out across other games and/or other servers, so I was thinking of a planned exodus, a solid base for some of us to stay together should everything go sideways. (We also miss a lot of you have not been able to join us on Star [sign in to see URL] a long list!)

I have discussed this with a few other officers, but want to hear everyone's feedback, here's my plan so far.

A few of us are testing out a few other games, that meet certain criteria that would make it easy for all to enjoy, meet and have regular game time if wanted.

1. The game is free to play - this leaves it open to all and and also saves us the money of buying trying something we don't like.

2. Fantasy environment - though probably not mandatory, most of our fellow guildies enjoy this environment.

3. Easy on hardware - The game can run in high/los res, either has multiple game client downloads like LOTRO does for HD or regular graphics, etc. This will help us from restricting players with older pcs.

4. Has excellent group and end game dynamics

5. Has a nice sandbox environment or a component for good story and/or exploration.

6. The ability to create a guild.

This brought up a few games that meet the bill, and at present I am suggesting a few, who are interested, DL a few and we can run some dry runs together if interested. (So far we are DLing Dungeon and Dragons Online, Lineage II and Forsaken World to check them out)

We also discussed, as Colin mentioned one day, we are more of gaming community, as we have friends and guildies playing across dif games. I say we embrace this concept, recruit people to the community, and create a base of 'homes' for these folks across a set few games to start. (ie, we have a guild on LOTRO right now, we can make a clan on World of Tanks, and we can create a home/guilds on some others) This way, we have a place for people to go, if they decide to leave SWTOR etc.., but have a place to call home.

So here is another thought, and yes, my writing is probably scattered all over the place. But I was thinking of an old fashioned D&D Online night, say every Friday night (or whenever), we roll new toons, and only play those toons each Friday with the other players, much like the old days when we just had pen and [sign in to see URL] thoughts. Maybe a LOTRO night, etc.

Much like Aerwyn keeping that candle in the window, I want us all to know there is a place waiting for us.

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I like the [sign in to see URL] keeps showing me various virtual table tops for D&[sign in to see URL] real life game ended about a year ago, too hard to find time with 3 kids, and other players having kids and [sign in to see URL] will keep an eye on what transpires and will try to find a way to fit back in!...if I could get off my lazy ass and get the new/old PC up and running I think I could play [sign in to see URL]

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Wow G . . . this sounds awesome! emoticon

I would love to try a D&D night! I've not really played that one, but would really like to set a Friday night aside (if that works for everyone) to have the old fashioned feel brought back where the Knights all get together again. This really is a wonderful idea, and you can count me in! emoticon emoticon

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Awesome to hear from both of you that you're on board with the idea!

From my viewpoint, the "gaming community" that Gerry suggests is really what we've been doing within this forum since the very beginning, starting with VC, moving to CLW, and then to lands beyond. However, I think that being a bit more "intentional" about it is a very good idea. I would like to suggest that we update our communication vehicle by using a more full featured website, one similar to the one we are using for SWTOR. It allows for a lot more functionality, e.g. a front page "look" with calendar showing "events", members can show all related characters across multiple games, a "news" section, etc.

I think it would be cool discuss this and toss around ideas, pros and cons. A meeting in Vent, a chat channel or in-game on LOTRO? Come up with a name for our group that is a little shorter than OotSK, (which we've found just doesn't work in some games) that we can use in all the different games? Throw around other such ideas.

It was very disheartening to me when I finally left Diren Hold and ventured into Azeroth, to find that our tightly knit group of Knights were spread across about 5 different servers. I think it's clear that we are all gamers and some games appeal to some that don't appeal to others. However, if we are proactive and discuss new games within our own gaming community - then hopping on them right away to make a "home" for "us", perhaps we'd have more success keeping together.

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I am sorry to hear it about Star Wars even if I'm not that surprised.

I heartily agree that we need a way to keep our merry band of gamers together. The ideas presented are all great ones.

The topic of games is hard in picking a direction that works for the largest audience. One aspect of games that can impact us is the ability to play together almost regardless of levels. Some games offer ways to scale player levels to support gamers to play together regardless of level.

DDO has always seemed to me to be a game that works well in a constant group going through the quests. You can unlock Turbine Points (only for DDO though) as you go through the game which can be used to unlock more content (similar to LotRO).

LotRO is always another fun game and as mentioned, we have a guild and guild hall there. The downside with LotRO is trying to stay near each other in levels and play through interesting content. Skirmishes and a few group dungeons seem to be mostly what it provides. After about level 30, it's hard to be a truely F2P title, but I don't remember it being that expensive.

In the middle of last year, several of us played EQ2 for a bit. It is now F2P with some restrictions. We still have a guild on the Freeport server. Benefit of EQ2 is that the content truly is free; the classes are restricted. Also, you can mentor down to group up with other players which makes tackling dungeons more appropriate.

Another game I can think of would be City of Heros (I think it went F2P with big class restrictions) which has a side kick system.

There is also an old game named Guild Wars. You can pick up the original game pretty cheap and the expansions for a reasonable sum. It's not an open or sandbox world though. It also does not allow player scaling.

There are a few upcoming non-subscription games that I am purchasing. Guild Wars 2 is now a sandbox game and players scale to the area they are in (scale down only). It also includes a large PvP portion (World v World) where they pit 3 servers against each other for two weeks then rotate.

There is also Diablo 3 coming out next week; not sandbox or even large parties. Anyone logging into WoW will see me in there for a bit.

I would love for us to have an assigned weekend evening to meet up and play games. I would suggest starting with one title but expect that we branch out to a few titles even at the same time. Interests change over time but as long as we have enough to field one or more groups in a game, I would consider it a viable option.

I would love for us to have our own domain based on a guild name we chose to use. If nothing else, it makes it easier to find us for new members.

The next question is what to do with forums. Runboard has been useful for us, but it has many limitations. We have two options at least; use a prebuilt site such as what our Star Wars branch is doing or go into a hosting situation where we could host forum software on our own website. I have been in two other guilds that have gone the later route, but the former can work if the base site contains all the pieces we need.

We need to get the members together every week. Having a set week plan is great to keep members interested. One guild I was in with WAR had a weekly plan to get into RvR. It branched out into a series called battle of the badlands. I think we can manage weekly get togethers without that much prep work with one or two games just based on natural progression.

On top of getting members together, we should get the officers together at least once a month in voice chat. Part of it is to chat with old friends. The more important part is to help talk through any issues coming up with the guild as a whole. It allows branch leaders to have a set time to talk with others. This does not stop us from talking on the forums, but it can help to have an actual conversation.
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I heartily agree that we need a way to keep our merry band of gamers together.

I would love for us to have an assigned weekend evening to meet up and play games. I would suggest starting with one title but expect that we branch out to a few titles even at the same time. Interests change over time but as long as we have enough to field one or more groups in a game, I would consider it a viable option.



This is what we did with VC and it worked well. One night a week, but perhaps we switch up which game we play? Sounds like a plan to me. We just need a way to communicate effectively.

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I would love for us to have our own domain based on a guild name we chose to use. If nothing else, it makes it easier to find us for new members.

We need to get the members together every week. Having a set week plan is great to keep members interested. ...I think we can manage weekly get togethers without that much prep work with one or two games just based on natural progression.



We have so many talented individuals in our group. Whatever our resident experts feel is best in the way of how to create a site has my vote. I'd just like to see the same types of things our SWTOR site has, i.e. Calendar quick view on home page, links or portals to specific games or forums our members are playing/using, and especially a video/art section for our members that are so extremely talented with the art and video aspect, etc. I also love that I can see from our home page who is currently on Vent!

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On top of getting members together, we should get the officers together at least once a month in voice chat. Part of it is to chat with old friends. The more important part is to help talk through any issues coming up with the guild as a whole. It allows branch leaders to have a set time to talk with others. This does not stop us from talking on the forums, but it can help to have an actual conversation.



Oh yes! Spoken from my own heart. Let's find a way to talk... about this, about that, about whatever. emoticon






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Let's find a way to talk... about this, about that, about whatever. emoticon



This weekend I am out of town. Tonight though, I'll find my way back to vent and chat with whoever is on. About this or any other topic. I may be playing Mass Effect 3 at the same time, but at least I can pause that when having a conversation emoticon
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if you don't have a headset, there is also a live chat option on vent we can use. I could stay out of game and watch for chat and relay important info back and forth? ... just a thought.

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We now have room for 20 concurrent users on our vent server. emoticon

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Sorry I'm a little late to this party... been pretty busy this week and failed to see there were new posts up at the top.

I'm always game for a new game. LotRO has been and is a great game, and I intend to continue playing it, but I would also love to find a game that we could all enjoy together.

Some of the suggestions that are interesting to me are D&D Online, Everquest 2, and City of Heroes, but I'm up for others as well. There are a lot of F2P/Freemium games.

I played City of Heroes a few years ago (and should still have my account available), and if you are interested in a very different MMO, this is it. You will spend 15 minutes minimum designing your first super suit. emoticon There are also some great alternative group styles that don't require the traditional tank/dps/healer builds. The game play can get very repetitive, though. Leveling is done through missions - many of which are instanced, and all members of the team get xp from completing the mission. The missions also scale the difficulty according to group membership to a maximum of 6 players.

I'll get a new mic this weekend so I can get on vent and talk about this. It would be great to get everyone together again. emoticon

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Wonderful thoughts and suggestions! emoticon

I would love to join in vent, but have no mic/headset emoticon If I can contribute without a headset/mic though, count me in!

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