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I am not sure where to post this so will do it here.
While doing raid I noticed that when a mob run and some one does chase it the adds the peep gets run straight to some one in the peeps group. What if you put two heavy DD's in a group by them selfs and let them chase the mob and kill it.
Maybe any adds they get will not run to main group.
The two peeps can have an offsite rezzer so when they die can rez back with out some one having to leave their group to rez them.
As for the death I beleive we are all at max anyway.
I do not know but seems to me if you get mob all most dead it is kind of sad to see it get away and get full health back just to come back to main group.
Just a thought
Only wished I had MORE experiance in raids.
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Some thing I found while reading walk throughs from differant sites on this Isle

CS: We completed this recently (along with Chaotic Order) and yes it's a pretty tricky island. We farmed the Scavengers and Scouts and eventually got all 5 Patrollers spawned (do NOT kill a Patroller until ALL FIVE have spawned). Then, we collected all the Scavengers/Scouts, and put them in a huge pile, and kept AoE rooters on them constantly. This way, we could pull and kill the patrollers without adds. Once all 5 Patrollers were killed the Guardians spawned, and we killed them and the Arbiter spawned. Once the Arbiter is spawned and killed she will respawn immediately and you'll have to rekill her again. Once she is killed, the portal spawns. Keep those AoE Rooters on the Scavengers/Scouts constantly. Everyone goes thru the portal, the AoE rooters do one last root then run for the portal. It took us 13 hours.

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I think the aoe root would be a great way to handle things. We can have the whole dam island [sign in to see URL] can get that? Ive been trying to find it and cant seem to locate it. If its my toon, then Ill change it up. Im very anxious to finish this up. Also if we dont have anyone to aoe root,then someone whos job is JUST to root mobs. We know that at least 5 at a time is possible. It cannot be one of the key dmg dealers or healers tho.
I had also suggested stacking healers yesterday. The reason for that was that there is so little room on the back side of the island. I for one am constantly bumping into way to many ppl for such a small area. Im simply afraid of falling off. that is what I was trying to get at.

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Casters that go lionwere or gatorwere get an aoe root.
Enchanters also get an aoe root (not sure if all are, but the one in the 40s level, with recast of 2 is AOE for sure)
Answer to post I did on EQoA forums

Lionwere
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Aoe root

Gatorwere
Swamp Vines
Nec Mage Wis Enc Alc
Aoe root


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Thanks for the suggestions, Pat and Donna. Suggestions are always welcome!

We had people chasing the mobs on nearly every kill regardless of the fact that I, the raid leader, shouted in all caps DOZENS of times to NOT chase the retreaters. Its really hard to control anything when people do not follow the instructions of the raid leader. This never used to be a problem, but certainly has been on the last two raids. Even though the raid leader (me both times) has give instructions people choose to do something else. The last raid at SE, I asked people for an HOUR to die in the center of the tunnel and then to not rez back until the slayer had reset. An hour later, they were still rezzing back and he was still not reset. For the past 3 days I've been telling people to NOT chase the mobs and they still are. So, yeah, its a problem. I've been patient, but I'm thinking of calling people out because it's wasting everyone's time and energy. Raiding should be fun not frustrating.


As far as stacking healers, you can always feel free to stack on someone. I hate it personally, so I try not to do it, lol. Usually we do it to protect people from AoE or line of sight to the mob, but in this case our problem was not healers dropping, but people chasing retreaters. If you are afraid of falling off, certainly stack yourself. I don't plan on setting up there again tho... we've just tried that spot so many times and have the same issues every single time, even when Sushi led.

We asked about AoE root yesterday and no one seemed to have it. I think it's an epic choice for certain classes Donna, altho I'm not certain. It would be awesome if it was as simple as just a CM rehab. We'll have to find that out.

I was thinking something similar to you, Pat with a group of 2 people, but not for chasing the retreaters. I was thinking that perhaps we could assign a special group of 2 rooters who have invis (for rezzing back), maybe a sha or drd (for rez) and a rooting caster. This group would be expected to go in advance of the MT to root roamers in the path of the MT. They would keep themselves far enough away from the guild that if root did break, they could just die and the rooted mobs would not advance on the guild. This "root group" would move their spots according to where the MT wanted to pull from.

Additionally, I was thinking that we could have a nec follow the MT on the long pulls. That way the MT would have someone to pact him on the way back, and a nec would likely draw less agro pacting that a healer would. If the nec did draw agro, RSD would be there to step in until the tank recovered agro.

Lastly, I think that I may make up hotkeys to use during each pull.
***One in the middle of the pull to remind people to save their biggest attacks for the retreat.
***Another to use at 1 red left: "ALL PETS ON PASSIVE NOW!!"
***Then at the retreat: "USE BIGGEST ATTACKS NOW!!"
***Also to assign only one rooter to chase the retreater and announce that too, "EVERYONE STAY PUT - DO NOT MOVE!! Only Blastcorp will follow to root it."

Once it is rooted, with no one attacking it, the whole guild can temporarily move to the rooted retreater and on the count of 3, have everyone cast on it. That should drop it.

Bottom line though... people gotta follow the instructions of the raid leader. If they have a better idea, then send a tell to the raid leader... don't just do your own thing.

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Casters that go lionwere or gatorwere get an aoe root.
Enchanters also get an aoe root (not sure if all are, but the one in the 40s level, with recast of 2 is AOE for sure)
Answer to post I did on EQoA forums

Accelerated Folliage
Nec Mage Wis Enc Alc
Aoe root



Awesome!! Dauterofsin, my new nec is lionwere, and I also have 2 enchanters, but I didn't see any spell like that. I'll have to check it out more closely. Thanks!

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I was thinking something similar to you, Pat with a group of 2 people, but not for chasing the retreaters. I was thinking that perhaps we could assign a special group of 2 rooters who have invis (for rezzing back), maybe a sha or drd (for rez) and a rooting caster. This group would be expected to go in advance of the MT to root roamers in the path of the MT. They would keep themselves far enough away from the guild that if root did break, they could just die and the rooted mobs would not advance on the guild. This "root group" would move their spots according to where the MT wanted to pull from.

 



If you would like to try this I can have Borron logged on for root group rez.
He can be in any town you would like.
Right now I think he is in Arc.
This way for those of you who play more than one toon you would not have to set one out.
Just a thought.
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Cool, Have some really good ideas forming here now.. Well get this figured out. We gonna try tonite? I have a few things to do, but can get online about 6 mountian.

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Cool, I've been considering whether or not to Were my twin mages... and of course only really thinking Rat. I may have to take one lion or gator just for this ability, I can certainly see where it would be handy.
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Valtome Has Aoe root (Gatorwere) I was trying to use it Lastnight (Tue) didn't work that well, I also have a root Nuke Channeler MCA when they were retreating or Spawned back i was trying to cast that so i could still damage and it would still be rooted.

I honestly didn't see the Don't chase them Down Call sorry emoticon
 
I only did it either invised or when a clear path

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